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[personal profile] hazelk, Notes to self: vid warnings at VVC
I like this because it considers both the benefit to people w/triggers who need warnings and the cost to people w/triggers for whom this compromises their efforts for self-protection.

[personal profile] impertinence, this is not a furious screed; it is a constructive post
This talks about the difference between an entire con selecting (or de facto being) "Choose not to warn" and individuals selecting "Choose not to warn," even if it's for their entire body of work.

I thought I'd seen a post that made the point that there are people with triggers who need warnings and people with triggers who need to not be required to warn, but all I can find is this thread at [personal profile] thingswithwings.
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[personal profile] arduinna has breakdowns for how she'd warn for vids in Premieres 2009 and vids voluntarily labeled by vidders for 2010. My breakdowns for the same vids are kinda different. So it seems like some clarification is in order, and I'd love to get some more details if people feel comfortable providing them; please don't feel compelled to answer! One of the most distressing things about this set of discussions has been the way people with disabilities have been forced to disclose personal information they clearly would have preferred not to, and I don't want to push that.

I'm turning on anonymous posting and turning off IP logging, if you prefer to comment anonymously.

Questions for peeps what get migraines


  • Can you describe in more detail what kind of "strobe lighting" triggers you? Are cop car flashers dangerous, flickering lights dangerous, slow strobes dangerous? If you have someone who knows your triggers well enough to judge, are they willing to provide an opinion on my vid Etheric Messages (additional warnings)? (If other people have vids with strobe lighting, please feel free to suggest them -- I'm not trying to get more viewers, it's just the vid I could think of offhand. ;)

  • For abrupt changes in audio, it's my impression that only extreme abrupt changes qualify, as from a whisper to a shout, but that both silence to loud music and the typical transition between softer verse and louder chorus are fine. Is this correct?



Questions for peeps what have violence triggers, and actually for peeps in general

  • Can you give some examples of what's acceptable violence and what's triggery violence? I'm thinking of things like, I consider slapping someone a violent act but I probably wouldn't check off "Violence" if there was just one emotional slap in an otherwise nonviolent vid. Does that fit with your expectation, or do you expect that to be labeled?

  • Do "explicit violence" and "graphic violence" convey different things to you, and if so, which one better applies to your triggers?


I don't actually care whether there's a lot of work created in having to label a lot of vids; I'm with [personal profile] lightgetsin that that's an ablist consideration. (Although she is more forgiving of the slippery slope argument than I am; I feel like arguing that labeling for triggers will lead to labeling for moral reasons is about as sound as arguing that gay marriage will lead to the legalization of bestiality.) But I do care about getting and providing a good understanding of what we expect each label to mean, just so they can work.

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