Moderator:
absolut3destinyThis is an inexact transcript, but I promised to note down all the jokes for
heresluck because she was bitter about having to miss the panel. I think she might have done better to ask Ian to re-enact it for her, possibly while drunk and with assistance.
absolut3destiny: It's 10 in the morning! You're all crazy. If I could be asleep, I would be.
tzikeh: And if you gave the panel that way, that would be comedy.
absolut3destiny: Comedy is ... [draws a line across the easel]. And that's my panel done.
Comedy begins with music. Start simple, with slapstick. There's an old Chinese proverb: There's no joke like watching an old friend fall off a roof. Let me show you--[fiddles with computer] The lesson of this is: Never rely on YouTube for your source. Okay, since I I can't show you this, I'm going to have to act it out. [Acts out the Monty Python principles of comedy, which I have completely forgotten but which I can assure
heresluck was very funny and involved mimes and a banana peel.] The essence of comedy is familiarity and difference: you set up the repetitions, then twist the end where the audience is expecting the same thing.
Comedy has a grammar: The funny word happens at the end of the sentence. If it happens in the middle, people don't laugh; they expect more of the joke.
[Ian showed an insane porn vid he can't show at family-audiences anime shows.] The lesson is: People fucking is really funny.
To get in the comedy frame of mind, muck around with clips on your timeline; improvise. Experiment. Unlearn precision. Note down what made you laugh where and in what context, because by the time you've seen it fifty times, you won't be laughing anymore.
What's funny?
Surprising literalism, as in "Enormous Penis" (
Farscape vid) or possibly "Detachable Penis" (
Pros vid) or possibly "Detachable Penis" the song. This relies completely on the literal interpretation. It works better with a single source. "Hot Hot Hot" does the same with multiple fandoms, but each clip visually connects to the rest. If it really is the same joke again and again,
cut the song. "Razzle Dazzle," by contrast, builds up: Kirk kisses a girl, kisses a second girl, kisses the third girl -- and punches her. It's the final punch, the final difference, that makes the joke.
The rule of three: In Western culture, our storytelling trains us to expect repetition in groups of three (fairy tales set it up when we're very young and other narratives continue to use the same structure, if not quite so obviously). Set up your joke before the punchline.
Intelligent humor makes the audience feel clever for getting the joke; the satisfaction makes them happy. But to do this properly, you must make sure the audience knows what you know. Frame the video; you need the mundane explanatory things for the joke to work.
Example:
MASH vid has the best joke on "the camp has alligators," in the middle; save the best joke for the end, as per the grammar of comedy.
You can make comic vids from depressing shows if you take them all the way down, so bleak it's over the top.
Try to get fresh betas, because jokes are easily exhausted; if you can, be there in person when they beta, so you can see when they start laughing. It's a bad sign if they start laughing too soon. Remember when you laughed for the first time.
sisabet and
sockkpuppett's "Whatever" has a mix of the literal and the metaphoric.
"Holding Out for a Hero" is framed perfectly; the theatricality of the credits fits the theatricality of the song. By contrast, "Comedy Tonight," a
Farscape vid, needed more framing so the audience knew where to laugh.
Sitcom vids, i.e., situation comedies: establish the situation and let it play through the logic. "I Wish I Was A Lesbian" begins outside the house to establish the normality of it all, like a classic sitcom; the title doesn't show up until after the intro.
Basic Rules
- Brevity is the soul of wit. "And, you know, it's easier on you." A joke vid should be 2:30 max; 1:30 may be perfect. Don't be afraid to do 30-second jokes; just put the best bits in.
- Song choice is critical. "It's also helpful to like stupid stuff." 50s pop music is great for comedy vids because a lot of it is cheesy or fluffy.
- Parody depends on framing. There's a Twin Peaks vid to the Addams Family theme song which mimics the AF titles, but could have done so even more obviously.
vagabondage: It's okay to hit your audience over the head. Ten times.
sisabet: Subtlety is for pussies.
absolut3destiny: You can be as subtle as you like later.
Expressions are essential; the reaction shots often tell the audience when to laugh. Hold the punchline to give people long enough to laugh.