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thuviaptarth) wrote2006-08-17 06:36 pm
thuviaptarth) wrote2006-08-17 06:36 pm
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barkley and renenet
laurashapiro and lithiumdoll, "I Put You There"
nestra: The song choice is brilliant: It's a song about fannish appropriation. "I take what you produce and make it my own."
sisabet: It's like part of a series with "Failed Experiments in Video Editing" and "Walking on the Ground." [brightly] I like it when there are vids about us.
sockkpuppet sees it as part of the fourth-wave of video elements combining elements of different vidding traditions.
astolat: This vid is the anthem for 4th wave editing. "I want you, I take you."
Laura said she'd picked Giles because she did an LJ poll on who fans liked best and Giles won by a landslide. "I think this is the only context for which I'd recommend doing market research for a vid."
astolat: I wanted that poll there!
tzikeh knew it had to be Laura because the a capella was a dead giveaway. But she wondered about how such a fannish line could show up in a song: "In real life you're someone else."
renenet: But it's pretty typical for crush objects--you know you only see a little bit of them, you don't know them well.
tzikeh: She used the livejournal pencil to draw the crush object, to draw herself in. She draws on her own.
astolat: After recent discussions, I appreciated that her fleshtone was brown and her hair wasn't a realistic color--she's not the standard white fan girl. It's more inclusive.
Me: Okay, she's every fangirl, but she's those of us with glasses and curly hair more. [Later, once I'd talked tolithium_doll, I realized she was probably a modified self-portrait.] I also like the way the nature of the song reinforces what the vid is saying about fandom: She draws on her own, but she's one voice supported by multiple voices. It's fandom as a community project, not an individual endeavor.
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theshoshanna liked that it had no presumption of familiarity with the Buffyverse. It could really be about any fannish Bright Shiny Object. "I mean, you do need one object; you can't obsess about 18 people at once."
nestra: Clearly you've never met me.
barkley mentioned how the joke built with careful repetitions, escalating from kisses to Fan Girl drawing herself in the frame.
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sockkpuppett & tzikeh, "Subterranean Homesick Blues"
It's another meta-fannish vid. The XF closing credits have a boy's voice saying "I made this!";tzikeh and sockkpuppett take it to fannish multiplicity, "We made this."
renenet couldn't at first tell if it were a universe vid or a Mulder vid until the closing mosaic resolved it: it's Mulder's face made up of the universe, the whole universe mirrored in Mulder's face.
laurashapiro: He's such an arrogant bastard.
Lum mentioned thatdualbunny's help in After Effects was essential to that closing image.
katallison mentioned how the song pegged the essential paranoid counterculture universe of The X Files. Bob Dylan is so hard to vid, but XF is so out there.
cesperanza: The song is an anthem for cynicism and paranoia, which is a synonym for "X Files" in the dictionary.
sisabet liked the flipping of the credits text ("The Truth Is Out There"), the words in blood, the text woven all through the vid.
me: I liked the way the vid rewarded close knowledge of The X Files, the 60s, Dylan: "I don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" as the only black man in the entire X Files universe is killed; the way the mosaic at the end is a call back to the paper mosaic of a girl's face in the 2nd or 3rd episode.
sisabet: Vidding this song is essentially like vidding rap; the information is coming on so fastfastfast.
killabeez: This is a "roots reclamation" of The X Files.
sockkpuppett: We ended it where we thought the show should have ended.
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sdwolfpup, "Fix You"
sisabet: Six is the heroine/the POV as God's love.
theshoshanna: It's not a twist, it's a reveal. The hint is Six with the baby. It's unbelievably chilling and it's canon. It's the other side of "Jerusalem," the epic love of god.
[someone]: And you get suckered by the Coldplay, it's pop, it's fluffy, you think it's going to be shippery.
absolut3destiny: When I saw this vid, I thought, "Finally someone has seen that this song is really creepy. It's all about the change in perspective. I just love this vid so much, and I hate Coldplay."
sockkpuppett: When I saw the doors, I knew it was Cylon POV. It's a perfectly realized horror movie.
[someone]: And it's not too long, I don't know if it was cut--the vid's so streamlined and clean.
sdwolfpup: I cut it dramatically; it's a five-minute song.]
tzikeh: It's a brilliant case of going against the tone of your song.
killabeez: The one moment that jerked me out was the moment of Baltar infidelity, when you see the back of Six's head.
theshoshanna: I liked the irony of it: the light is ships blowing up, atomic explosions. The rest of it inverted, but that's literal. astolat disagreed [my notes unclear here; I think she may have argued that all of it was literal?]
vonnie_k: Six can be scary, but we got the tender personal smile of Six.
renenet: We usually identify the first character seen in the vid as the subject, but here the first images we see (the humans) are the object. But the envoy slipping in sets the object up as not just our characters but all of humanity. The peace papers turn into explosions.
barkley and renenetlaurashapiro and lithiumdoll, "I Put You There"nestra: The song choice is brilliant: It's a song about fannish appropriation. "I take what you produce and make it my own."sisabet: It's like part of a series with "Failed Experiments in Video Editing" and "Walking on the Ground." [brightly] I like it when there are vids about us.sockkpuppet sees it as part of the fourth-wave of video elements combining elements of different vidding traditions.astolat: This vid is the anthem for 4th wave editing. "I want you, I take you."Laura said she'd picked Giles because she did an LJ poll on who fans liked best and Giles won by a landslide. "I think this is the only context for which I'd recommend doing market research for a vid."
astolat: I wanted that poll there! tzikeh knew it had to be Laura because the a capella was a dead giveaway. But she wondered about how such a fannish line could show up in a song: "In real life you're someone else."renenet: But it's pretty typical for crush objects--you know you only see a little bit of them, you don't know them well.tzikeh: She used the livejournal pencil to draw the crush object, to draw herself in. She draws on her own.astolat: After recent discussions, I appreciated that her fleshtone was brown and her hair wasn't a realistic color--she's not the standard white fan girl. It's more inclusive.Me: Okay, she's every fangirl, but she's those of us with glasses and curly hair more. [Later, once I'd talked to
lithium_doll, I realized she was probably a modified self-portrait.] I also like the way the nature of the song reinforces what the vid is saying about fandom: She draws on her own, but she's one voice supported by multiple voices. It's fandom as a community project, not an individual endeavor.theshoshanna liked that it had no presumption of familiarity with the Buffyverse. It could really be about any fannish Bright Shiny Object. "I mean, you do need one object; you can't obsess about 18 people at once."nestra: Clearly you've never met me.barkley mentioned how the joke built with careful repetitions, escalating from kisses to Fan Girl drawing herself in the frame.___
sockkpuppett & tzikeh, "Subterranean Homesick Blues" It's another meta-fannish vid. The XF closing credits have a boy's voice saying "I made this!";
tzikeh and sockkpuppett take it to fannish multiplicity, "We made this."renenet couldn't at first tell if it were a universe vid or a Mulder vid until the closing mosaic resolved it: it's Mulder's face made up of the universe, the whole universe mirrored in Mulder's face.laurashapiro: He's such an arrogant bastard.Lum mentioned that
dualbunny's help in After Effects was essential to that closing image.katallison mentioned how the song pegged the essential paranoid counterculture universe of The X Files. Bob Dylan is so hard to vid, but XF is so out there.cesperanza: The song is an anthem for cynicism and paranoia, which is a synonym for "X Files" in the dictionary.sisabet liked the flipping of the credits text ("The Truth Is Out There"), the words in blood, the text woven all through the vid. me: I liked the way the vid rewarded close knowledge of The X Files, the 60s, Dylan: "I don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows" as the only black man in the entire X Files universe is killed; the way the mosaic at the end is a call back to the paper mosaic of a girl's face in the 2nd or 3rd episode.
sisabet: Vidding this song is essentially like vidding rap; the information is coming on so fastfastfast.killabeez: This is a "roots reclamation" of The X Files.sockkpuppett: We ended it where we thought the show should have ended.___
sdwolfpup, "Fix You"sisabet: Six is the heroine/the POV as God's love.theshoshanna: It's not a twist, it's a reveal. The hint is Six with the baby. It's unbelievably chilling and it's canon. It's the other side of "Jerusalem," the epic love of god. [someone]: And you get suckered by the Coldplay, it's pop, it's fluffy, you think it's going to be shippery.
absolut3destiny: When I saw this vid, I thought, "Finally someone has seen that this song is really creepy. It's all about the change in perspective. I just love this vid so much, and I hate Coldplay."sockkpuppett: When I saw the doors, I knew it was Cylon POV. It's a perfectly realized horror movie.[someone]: And it's not too long, I don't know if it was cut--the vid's so streamlined and clean.
sdwolfpup: I cut it dramatically; it's a five-minute song.]tzikeh: It's a brilliant case of going against the tone of your song.killabeez: The one moment that jerked me out was the moment of Baltar infidelity, when you see the back of Six's head.theshoshanna: I liked the irony of it: the light is ships blowing up, atomic explosions. The rest of it inverted, but that's literal. astolat disagreed [my notes unclear here; I think she may have argued that all of it was literal?]vonnie_k: Six can be scary, but we got the tender personal smile of Six.renenet: We usually identify the first character seen in the vid as the subject, but here the first images we see (the humans) are the object. But the envoy slipping in sets the object up as not just our characters but all of humanity. The peace papers turn into explosions.
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Actually - as a really unimportant point of possible interest - I came up with a few FanGirls (smaller, larger, curly hair, straight hair, wavey hair, glasses / no glasses - even different kinds of drawing style) ... and Laura chose the one we'd end up with. So it was complete coincidence and kinda funny that I just, you know, happen to look kinda like the perfect FanGirl. *g*
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Also, I have watched your SPN vid around five times since I got home and mainlined 10 eps of SPN in a day and had to physically remove myself from the source of temptation and spend a few hours in the library in order to get the con reports done. I blame you.
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Thank you *g*