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Oh, god, I think I have been watching vids for three and a half hours straight, my eyes are going to fall out. And I haven't commented, not even more than a placeholder for MY VID MINE MINE FOR ME!!, because I can't put reactions together.

But so far, these are my (other) favorites:

Past in Present (Chak De! India)
Mother Mary (China Beach)
Never Be (Criminal Minds)
Me & My 424 (Dark Angel)
Body and Soul (Legend of the Seeker)
You Belong with Me (Lois & Clark)
Feel It (So You Think You Can Dance)
Meddle (The Vampire Diaries)

And I have only seen, hmm, the source for two of these vids. So, you know, canon knowledge not required.

I have been playing mad guessing games about who did which vid in my head, but I am not sharing because I'm not sure everyone would like to play. I will be keeping private score, though! By which I mean that I will remember all the ones I got right and forget all the ones I got wrong and convince myself that I am skilled at identifying vidders purely by style.

ETA: Ahaha. Okay. So as per Yuletide tradition, if you guess which vid I made, I will make you at least a 30-second vidlet for a fandom TBD. Mods and betas are disqualified. No responses before the reveal.

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Your link for Me & My 424 goes to Never Be, as does the link to Never Be. And your link to You Belong to Me isn't a link?

Fixed.

Thanks! I love the look at Logan in 424. But the You Belong With Me link is giving me a Not Found error message. It is a link now, though--progress! Thanks for being willing to share them.

Ah well, since I already guessed for posterity in the big giant post before I saw this, I might as well guess personally, so to speak. I think you made "Etheric Messages." :)

Now I owe you a vidlet.

\o/ Awesome! Though I have to say, my smugness at being right based only on the visual connectedness of "Riot Act" and the fact that you once helped

beccatoria sell Fringe to me as a partial painkiller for Sarah Connor withdrawal is quite enough of a reward in itself. :) But on the non-obligatory vidlet, shall I give you fandom, character, prompt; just fandom; or? What level of specificity do you prefer? (For songs, I feel bad because I feel like I'd only be able to come up with one I want but have thusfar deemed too hard, which seems unfair! But if you prefer to have a song suggested, I can see what I can come up with!)

I am so amused that you and sweetestdrain actually see, like, a visual style! Because I want one! But I have no idea what it might be!

Anyway: Be as specific as you like and if I can't work with it, I'll ditch everything but fandom and character. But I will give it a shot.

Hmm well for the record, I'm trying to think of a better way to describe what I would say your style is than "visual connectedness" since, um, all vidding is that. But it's the connection of both subject and motion from each clip to the next, if that makes sense? Like people closing folders, and hands dancing and pulling away in Riot Act, and not just light in Etheric Messages but flashlights or flickering lights, or not just water but falling water. Um, if that makes sense? And I think I notice and remember it because visual mirroring like that is something I like and try to do, so it's notable when I see something that does it really well.

As for vidlets, I was trying to give you TSCC ideas but do you mind if I ask you for Fringe again? I have no song for this one, but I would love a creepy, contradictory Walter vidlet. He's my second favorite character and I really love the way the show walks the balance between what he's actually forgotten (deliberately or no) and what he's hiding, between the tenderness of his feelings and the sympathy and affection I have for him and the fact that he really was Dr. Frankenstein, doing stuff like experimenting on children, and is in some way responsible for All This. And I like the way they show his natural whimsy and humor without (I think) mocking mental illness. So that's a pretty long prompt but I think generally a vidlet about what you think about Walter would be awesome!

Hmmm. I will have to think about what kind of song might work for Walter.

Okay I just read some of the other stuff you've said about this show (i.e. your festivids letter), and I feel bad cause it seems like you might not like the show's portrayal of Walter as much as I do? If that's the case, don't feel obligated! I know they're all for-fun, non-obligatory vidlets anyway, but consider it like, an extra layer of optional if you don't like Walter?

No, it's fine; I don't like Walter but he is interesting and that counts for a lot. (I am so glad they cast John Noble even though they originally thought he was too young for the part. He's excellent.) I am still trying to figure out what music is right for him.

I missed the deadline and the Festivids moderator recommended I wait until February to contact you, but I want to stake my claim before somebody else does. I'll provide a link to a signed copy on Reveal Day.

Title: Black Water
Fandom: Ginger Snaps
Music: "Black Water" by Alina Simone
Summary: "Life in Bailey Downs" by B. Fitzgerald, aged 15
Warnings: horror film, animal harm
Length: 3:50

File name: Brigitte's Creek
Password: baileydowns

Link: http://www.vimeo.com/8772915

I'll be watching this post if you wish to leave me a comment, but I won't reply until the appropriate day unless there's something wrong with the vid.

♥ ♥ ♥ OHMYGOD YOU ARE SO AWESOME!!! I have watched like five times and I don't have words yet. I will be back with more later. ♥ ♥ ♥

Oh wow, this is so awesome! I absolutely love the music choice and how you hit the beats with clips so that I was never sure what to expect. Really powerful (and violent, whoa) clip choices and I particularly love the doors and then the one that wouldn't shut. No idea what was going on but it looked interesting. Love it!

I absolutely love the music choice

thuvia is a clever woman. Apart from having a great beat that takes its time, the beginning has that sleepy, suburban pace that immediately conjured up the key scenes and told me how to build from there.

and how you hit the beats with clips so that I was never sure what to expect.

To be honest, I was never sure what to expect either; the vid made itself in a few days and there are entire sections I don't remember putting together -- it makes it a difficult job to take all this praise, but I suppose somebody has to do it.

Um, wow? This was spectacular and chilling, and I don't know the source, and usually after watching a good Festivids vid I am all, "ooh, must see this movie!" but you know what? NO WAY IN HELL.

It's interesting: I'm naturally hard-stomached, but after twenty minutes of vidding I forgot what I was even looking at -- I imagine this happens to people in art classes when they look at live nudes and see only planes and angles.

I'm glad you found it worth watching despite your aversion to the source. (I'll probably be making another Ginger Snaps vid but with more gore and incestuous overtones, thereby alienating as many people as possible, in which case thank you, I'll be coasting on your praise in the future.)

This is an incredible vid that captures all the blood and fear and horror and sister love of the source material.

Thank you. I was too caught up drifting in the vid's wake to see how it was done and too biased besides to properly judge, so it's nice to know this vid worked well for somebody who has seen the film.

That was beautiful and spare and wonderfully violent - exactly as painful and uncomfortable as its source, maybe even more so, the way it links everything together in such a short span of time and retains the punch of it all the way through.

I'm pleased the vid had such an impact and I'm happy to take your compliment for the few brief seconds in it that felt like they required me to be there. Possibly the rest were also my doing, so I'll take the compliment for those as well, just in case.

I think you should be very proud, and I think you're selling yourself hella short by pretending the vid isn't a piece of horrific perfection and I honestly do think your vid is, in many ways, better than the movie it's inspired by and riffing on, for getting across in minutes what takes the movie over an hour to achieve, and filling it with all the nuances of the movie that so many people keep trying to miss.

It's a beautiful vid, okay, and I love it.

Of the templates of responses to comments like yours, this (http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=81) is the one I'd like to borrow, replacing 'comic' with 'vid' and 'baby' with 'ipod', perhaps. To paraphrase Chekov: "If with the first vid you have someone angry at you for being too modest, then with the following one you should have them fired."

(And thank you again, for the compliments and for the laugh.)

This is just gorgeous -- I love the way you use motion and rhythm, like the first intercut clips that zigzag back and forth, and the way the intercutting gives it the feeling of something building. I need to watch this movie now, and I don't even like gore.

I'm not one for horror films (watching a bunch of people who can't act be tortured for two hours is not my idea of an engaging activity) but Ginger Snaps is clever and interestingly pitched, although I'd be lying if I said the vid doesn't tone down the gore (then again, I think this makes the horror more effective).

I must admit that working on this vid was like a three day fever spent rolling around in the grass. The only work I had to do was making sure the cutting didn't waver too much between the beat and the vocals, and getting to sleep at night. It's a good way to vid, if you don't weaken -- and if it means comments like yours.

Hello, anonymous festividder, I am so sorry it's taken me so long to respond! Lately I am mostly sitting down to type while eating, and I hope you can understand why I am not able to rewatch your vid at that time.

So! This is going to be less than you deserve, in the interests of just getting it done already, and also because I love it too much to say. I love the embarassing physical squishyness of it all, meat, menstruation, the connections you draw between injuries and periods and vomiting up bloody chunks of meat, the torn animal parts, the family dinners interspersed with animal corpses because, like murder and hockey, it's the same thing in prettier clothes.

Also, I am amazed and delighted by how deadpan and hilarious the vid is, at the same time as it's horrifying and wrenching -- it's an aspect of the film I never thought about vidding, because I am terrible at comedy, and I am so glad you did it.

Some favorite bits:

0:00 - I love the fences. I can't even say why. I just love them.

0:56: There is just something so incredibly eerie about all the kids clapping to the beat while watching the projected film.

1:08: Hee. Hee. I love how you make werewolf attack = sex EVEN MORE EXPLICIT.

1:20: I love how Ginger is eating Brigitte's little girl heart by having sex with a boy/going through with puberty/going away from her. Oh, Ginger. Oh, Brigitte. (And also simultaneously reversing the gender stereotype, Ginger eating little boy hearts.)

1:22: Bridget's dour cautious look over the tampons is HILARIOUS.

1:30: Circling pen over uterus diagram!

1:35: The school nurse holding up condoms with a helpful smile

1:55: The girls hugging and the wolfsbane in Brigitte's hand just break my heart.

2:06: Brigitte's smile on "carelessly cruel" is chilling

2:38: "Just ROCK" The switch from the ominous predictablity of the door slamming shut on the beat to the shocking werewolf attack is AWESOME

Also, I love Ginger's predatory sway, aggressive and sexual, and the sisters crawling towards each other, interrupted by attacks and escape attempts; the desperate clutching of hands.

3:08: Bridget licking up the blood may be my favorite thing in the entire movie, and I am SO HAPPY you included it.

And oh, Brigitte curling up on Ginger's wolf-corpse and the return of the photographs at the end. It's perfect.

I am the vidder formerly known as (Anonymous). You can download a copy here (http://imbir.dreamwidth.org/1965.html?#cutid1).

I love the embarassing physical squishyness of it all, meat, menstruation, the connections you draw between injuries and periods and vomiting up bloody chunks of meat, the torn animal parts, the family dinners interspersed with animal corpses because, like murder and hockey, it's the same thing in prettier clothes.

The film and the music made it so easy: the proud and bland whitewash thinly spread over all these things that after-school specials just do not warn you about, quietly simmering below the surface before boiling over and taking half the grid with it. But not forever. Full marks for the prompt, by the way; I would never have come across the song and made the connection myself, and yet the entire vid was so intuitive and effortless I spent it digging around in my sandbox and waiting for the ice-cream truck to come by.

Also, I am amazed and delighted by how deadpan and hilarious the vid is, at the same time as it's horrifying and wrenching -- it's an aspect of the film I never thought about vidding, because I am terrible at comedy, and I am so glad you did it.

I have the opposite problem; I tend to find genuinely hypodermic drama more difficult, due to being an emotional flatline of a person. Having said that, Black Water was vidded with a poker face on all fronts; I am as surprised it managed to be amusing in braving the supermarket veldt and beyond, as I am that it managed to be terrifying to anybody other than Abbott and Costello.

0:00 - I love the fences. I can't even say why. I just love them.

Well, I love them because they were immediate and obvious, but if I were being tested on this, I would say it's because they're as readily symbolic as the cubicle. They're both heedless and deserted fortifications that are part of a bigger plan; to personalize something so sterile is a form of protest and to see it violently defaced is a sharp shake. See the supermarket aisles, cf. the playground. The whole vid grew out of those fences and into the woods and the kitchen, which are fairytale country and apparently veneers for all the sex we are too polite to mention. Personally, I like my sandbox, but the vid put me on a trail that lead straight to a tale drawn from life -- the wolf terrorises Woolworths and a girl can no longer walk through there with her basket like a normal person.

1:22: Bridget's dour cautious look over the tampons is HILARIOUS.

I am inordinately fond of this scene because this is what I look like every time I go to the supermarket.

1:35: The school nurse holding up condoms with a helpful smile

'Why, nurse, what big eyes you have.'

2:06: Brigitte's smile on "carelessly cruel" is chilling

This was one of the first scenes I had, to demonstrate that Brigitte loves Ginger when she's a normal, teenage monster, tethered and limited to barking, before everything gets exceedingly literal and consequential and Brigitte finds out what it's like to change and grow up, too.

Also, now that I think about it in light of your first comment above, the mire of female teenage dieting goes mostly unremarked upon in the film and I may have unintentionally drawn attention to it -- and not just here. (I think it's time for me to make a completely different vid in another fandom far, far from this one.)

2:38: "Just ROCK" The switch from the ominous predictablity of the door slamming shut on the beat to the shocking werewolf attack is AWESOME
Also, I love Ginger's predatory sway, aggressive and sexual

I vidded mostly linearly, and by this point (2.5 days in) I was sort of losing my mind: disco lights and Ginger Rogers and swaying cans of beans -- I should consider myself lucky you don't think the vid dissolves into satire.

P.S. As a return favour: I noticed your Middleman request on halfamoon and while I've not seen a single episode, have you heard Lisa Mitchell's Sidekick (it picks up after 0:25)? Lyrics (http://lyrics.wikia.com/Lisa_Mitchell:Sidekick) / Grooveshark (http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/search/songs/?query=lisa%20mitchell).

You should post this to vidding and bigscreenvids! I am amazed it's your first vid; the timing is so precise and imagery is so accomplished. I am looking forward to whatever you do next.

I will try the Lisa Mitchell song, thank you.

JUST OH MY GOD WHERE TO START. I LOVE THIS. I LOVE IT SO SO SO MUCH. On an incredibly visceral level where about 30 seconds in there were stars in my eyes, how much I loved this. I've had to watch it three times before I could even THINK about leaving a comment.

I'm a huge fan of the film and this is just EVERYTHING great about the film, like, compounded. I've seen the film about 10 times and I STILL feel like I've gotten something new out of this vid, so that's just wonderful.

Technically-- and I'm a very new, amateur vidder so I don't really know what I'm talking about-- I love your use of movement and rhythm. It suits the music so so well, which in turns suits the source, and particularly Brigitte, terrifically. I love the dark humour you've kept in-- the subversion of the lyrics with "eating little girls' hearts" as Ginger infects Jason.

My favourite part either has to be the juxtaposition of their mother, oblivious, giving Ginger her cake, with the snapping of the tupperware signifying her decision to protect the girls above all else-- SO GOOD-- or Brigitte and Ginger freaked out about feminine products as Sam discovers the werewolf.

HOW IS THIS YOUR FIRST VID?? I am so so envious. I will be rewatching again and again-- please more like this!

I love your use of movement and rhythm. It suits the music so so well, which in turns suits the source, and particularly Brigitte, terrifically.

Thuvia's choice was remarkable, agreed. I could place any clip on the timeline at random and almost always get a match. Not only is the beat strikingly deep and clear, but it has the right feel for the source -- a steady and lulling trickle until it's up to your neck.

My favourite part either has to be the juxtaposition of their mother, oblivious, giving Ginger her cake, with the snapping of the tupperware signifying her decision to protect the girls above all else-- SO GOOD--

You know, I liked how the imagery matched itself, the lyrics and Brigitte's perspective, but what it said about Pamela and her maternal instincts -- "Our little girl is a young woman now" matched with "You've done a terrible thing... but you're my tiny babies", feeding one's young versus watching them fend for themselves -- had not occurred to me. I like having my vid explained to me -- gives a nice ring of truth to it.

or Brigitte and Ginger freaked out about feminine products as Sam discovers the werewolf.

I was surprised by what this vid taught me about the cinematography of the film, and especially surprised by how easy and entertaining it was to showcase the parallels and doubling-back. This is one of my favourite edits too -- Sam's wavering step, especially, feels pithy and in tune.

I will be rewatching again and again-- please more like this!

There may yet be another vid. I had a song and an idea before I tried Thuvia's, so we shall see if I like that end result as much as I like this one.

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