oh, well said. i read the f_w threads with my jaw dropped last night. particularly at the comments non-observent/cultural jews made regarding the orthodox. which isn't to say there's no reason to be critical of the xenophobic race and gender attitudes i've encountered within the community, but discrediting them as lunatics isn't the way to go about it. and the constant reference to race issues as wank, which drives me mad. given that, there were some interesting threads, as other comments have mentioned. BUT STILL. thanks for putting this out there.