Meme

Apr. 11th, 2012 08:25 pm
thuviaptarth: a hand lighting a candle set in a grooved surface (origin stories)
Tell me you want to play and I'll pick up to three of your fandoms. Then update your journal and answer the following questions:

  1. What got you into this fandom in the first place?

  2. Do you think you'll stay in this fandom or eventually move on?

  3. Favorite episodes/books/movies, etc?

  4. Do you participate in this fandom (fanfiction, graphics, discussions)?

  5. Do you think more people should get into this fandom?







[personal profile] laurashapiro gave me: The X Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

I'm better off doing this in chronological order, I think, and also cutting because I am long-winded:

Buffy the Vampire Slayer )

The X Files )

The Sarah Connor Chronicles )

Crossovers

Nov. 23rd, 2006 04:07 pm
thuviaptarth: golden thuvia with six-legged lion (Default)
I have been thinking about [livejournal.com profile] vaznetti's post on crossovers; I haven't made it through all the comments and it's entirely possible what I've been thinking has already been said there better. I find crossovers inherently unlikely, tending to the self-indulgent, easy to fantasize and difficult to write: which probably says more about me and how I configure the relationships between writing and self-indulgence than it does about fanfiction.

What makes crossovers hard for me is the world-building: both the logistics (Buffy and Supernatural have mutually inconsistent species of vampires) and the symbolism and story-patterns. I need the symbolic structures of the universes to mesh and if they don't, I need to spend a lot of time working out how they could. Gravitation and Saiyuki just don't mesh; there are some character overlaps, but the stories are such different genres and have such different systems of symbolism (for example, Saiyuki has a system of symbol and metaphor, and Gravitation doesn't) that I couldn't even write a story, just a joke, and even the joke had to take place in a third place that wasn't either series' base universe. Crossing over X and Yami no Matsuei was unexpectedly easy not because of the characters but because both series featured cherry blossoms, ponds, liminal spaces in dreams and water, fire, earthquake, hidden and/or unholy desire, self-sacrifice, self-destructiveness, and serial killers who are inexplicably fond of cherry trees.*

Anyway, I've been thinking about crossovers because people keep bringing up the Supernatural/Buffy comparisons and it makes my head hurt. I mean, I can see the elements the shows supposedly have in common (and also Dean is Buffy! when he isn't Faith!), but the underlying schemas are just so different. Not even the cosmology, really, but the rules of narrative. In Buffy the Winchesters would be villains** and in Angel they'd be psychopaths. In Angel, now that I think about it, John Winchester would be Daniel Holtz.

... I think that's why Sam/Connor at Stanford doesn't exactly work for me. Too incestuous.***

* The other X/Yami no Matsuei crossover I thought about writing is the one where Hisoka enrolls undercover in the CLAMP Academy when trying to track down a murderer who's been killing pretty young teens under the sakura in Ueno Park, only to discover that it's Seishirou rather than Muraki. I'm telling you this because I have decided it is way too depressing for me to write. Though I do sometimes think wistfully of the very dysfunctional and very hot sex Hisoka and Kamui were going to have.

** Remember that werewolf hunter in S2? That's what the Winchesters would be. To certain extent, that's what they are; that's why one of the painful things about SPN is the extent to which it returns to generic conventions about the horror of Otherness that BtVS so thoroughly overturned. Which is why BtVS felt like fantasy (not all Otherness is horrific and triumph is not a return to the status quo) and why SPN may need to become less horror-like and more fantasy-like as it establishes a broader fictional universe. But maybe I just think so because I'm not very sympathetic to horror.

*** For fullest irony, I should follow up this post with a list of Sam/Dean stories I have liked, but I am too lazy at the moment.

Crossovers

Nov. 23rd, 2006 04:07 pm
thuviaptarth: golden thuvia with six-legged lion (Default)
I have been thinking about [livejournal.com profile] vaznetti's post on crossovers; I haven't made it through all the comments and it's entirely possible what I've been thinking has already been said there better. I find crossovers inherently unlikely, tending to the self-indulgent, easy to fantasize and difficult to write: which probably says more about me and how I configure the relationships between writing and self-indulgence than it does about fanfiction.

What makes crossovers hard for me is the world-building: both the logistics (Buffy and Supernatural have mutually inconsistent species of vampires) and the symbolism and story-patterns. I need the symbolic structures of the universes to mesh and if they don't, I need to spend a lot of time working out how they could. Gravitation and Saiyuki just don't mesh; there are some character overlaps, but the stories are such different genres and have such different systems of symbolism (for example, Saiyuki has a system of symbol and metaphor, and Gravitation doesn't) that I couldn't even write a story, just a joke, and even the joke had to take place in a third place that wasn't either series' base universe. Crossing over X and Yami no Matsuei was unexpectedly easy not because of the characters but because both series featured cherry blossoms, ponds, liminal spaces in dreams and water, fire, earthquake, hidden and/or unholy desire, self-sacrifice, self-destructiveness, and serial killers who are inexplicably fond of cherry trees.*

Anyway, I've been thinking about crossovers because people keep bringing up the Supernatural/Buffy comparisons and it makes my head hurt. I mean, I can see the elements the shows supposedly have in common (and also Dean is Buffy! when he isn't Faith!), but the underlying schemas are just so different. Not even the cosmology, really, but the rules of narrative. In Buffy the Winchesters would be villains** and in Angel they'd be psychopaths. In Angel, now that I think about it, John Winchester would be Daniel Holtz.

... I think that's why Sam/Connor at Stanford doesn't exactly work for me. Too incestuous.***

* The other X/Yami no Matsuei crossover I thought about writing is the one where Hisoka enrolls undercover in the CLAMP Academy when trying to track down a murderer who's been killing pretty young teens under the sakura in Ueno Park, only to discover that it's Seishirou rather than Muraki. I'm telling you this because I have decided it is way too depressing for me to write. Though I do sometimes think wistfully of the very dysfunctional and very hot sex Hisoka and Kamui were going to have.

** Remember that werewolf hunter in S2? That's what the Winchesters would be. To certain extent, that's what they are; that's why one of the painful things about SPN is the extent to which it returns to generic conventions about the horror of Otherness that BtVS so thoroughly overturned. Which is why BtVS felt like fantasy (not all Otherness is horrific and triumph is not a return to the status quo) and why SPN may need to become less horror-like and more fantasy-like as it establishes a broader fictional universe. But maybe I just think so because I'm not very sympathetic to horror.

*** For fullest irony, I should follow up this post with a list of Sam/Dean stories I have liked, but I am too lazy at the moment.
thuviaptarth: golden thuvia with six-legged lion (Default)
So I downloaded this vid from somewhere and I am really not sold on the opening, the epileptic jerkiness of the flashes, but it smoothes out a bit, and it's kind of interesting and then there's Kendra. When was the last time you saw a vid with Kendra? I have no idea, but the last time I saw a vid with Kendra might be never. And so there's Buffy, and she's lonely-alone, and there's Faith, and then there's Kendra, and Kendra really makes a difference, Kendra makes even the Faith clips seem new and exciting, the Faith clips I've seen a thousand times in a hundred different vids, and then, and then, and then it gets better and better and better and then there's the axe and there's the "Chosen" montage dissolving into "Graduation Day" and the thrown axe and the women and the four from "Primeval," and it's Buffy, y'all, it's Buffy and her sisters and Buffy and her friends and why it was Buffy's story all along, why it had to be her, why she made that choice, it's about all the Slayers and about Buffy all at the same time, and this is it, I can't tell you how much this is it, but that's so BUFFY, and ohmygod there she is, my Buffy, that's my girl.

And the end credits tell me it's "Boulevard of Broken Dreams Songs" by [livejournal.com profile] shati, so you should check it out, and if you checked it out already, WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME? Oh, my girl. My very favorite girl.
thuviaptarth: golden thuvia with six-legged lion (Default)
So I downloaded this vid from somewhere and I am really not sold on the opening, the epileptic jerkiness of the flashes, but it smoothes out a bit, and it's kind of interesting and then there's Kendra. When was the last time you saw a vid with Kendra? I have no idea, but the last time I saw a vid with Kendra might be never. And so there's Buffy, and she's lonely-alone, and there's Faith, and then there's Kendra, and Kendra really makes a difference, Kendra makes even the Faith clips seem new and exciting, the Faith clips I've seen a thousand times in a hundred different vids, and then, and then, and then it gets better and better and better and then there's the axe and there's the "Chosen" montage dissolving into "Graduation Day" and the thrown axe and the women and the four from "Primeval," and it's Buffy, y'all, it's Buffy and her sisters and Buffy and her friends and why it was Buffy's story all along, why it had to be her, why she made that choice, it's about all the Slayers and about Buffy all at the same time, and this is it, I can't tell you how much this is it, but that's so BUFFY, and ohmygod there she is, my Buffy, that's my girl.

And the end credits tell me it's "Boulevard of Broken Dreams Songs" by [livejournal.com profile] shati, so you should check it out, and if you checked it out already, WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL ME? Oh, my girl. My very favorite girl.

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